The Music Stops —Ex Jehovah’s Witness Michael Jackson Dies… (updated 7/15/ 2009)
Michael Jackson • Jehovah’s Witness • Religion • Dies
Michael Jackson, 50, legendary ‘King of Pop’ dead in Los Angeles
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Pop icon Michael Jackson died Thursday after being taken to a Los Angeles hospital in cardiac arrest, officials said. He was 50.
The “Thriller” superstar was unconscious and not breathing when Fire Department paramedics were summoned to Jackson’s Bel Air home by a 911 call at 12:26 California time.
They desperately tried to resuscitate the faded King of Pop as a cherry-red ambulance sped him to UCLA Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead.
“You’ve got to save him!” aides to the star screamed as he was wheeled into the hospital on the stretcher, the Web site TMZ.com reported.
Jackson’s mother and his sister LaToya were seen rushing into the hospital, apparently after he had already died.
The cause of death was unknown. The Los Angeles County coroner said an autopsy would be performed Friday.
Jackson’s ex-wife, Debbie Rowe, said through her lawyer she was “inconsolable” at the news.
“I lost my little brother today and part of my soul went with him,” music mogul Quincy Jones said as tributes began pouring in.
In a sign of Jackson’s enduring magnetism, crowds of mourners gathered outside the hospital within minutes of the news breaking.
Rev. Al Sharpton flashed a 25-year-old snapshot of Jackson and himself during a press conference outside the Apollo Theater in Harlem.
“We thought we’d see him moonwalk one more time,” Sharpton said.
Jackson’s death capped a life of dizzying superstardom and bizarre scandal and ended his bid to make a comeback with 50 sold-out concerts planned for London this summer.
He was training for the upcoming gigs with Lou Ferrigno, the star of the TV show The Incredible Hulk.
Longtime Jackson family lawyers Brian Oxman accused unnamed “enablers” of pushing the star too hard physically as he prepared for the tour.
The music legend burst onto the pop scene as a child star with the Jackson 5 nearly four decades ago. The group from Gary, Ind., produced hits like “ABC” and “I Want You Back.”
He became the world’s most popular musician when he went solo in the ’70s. Once a sure-fire hit machine, he holds the record for the biggest-selling album with “Thriller.”
He also wowed fans with monster hits like “Billie Jean” and “Beat It.”
Millions of fans imitated his famed moonwalk dance and he was known worldwide as the Gloved One for his trademark handwear.
But personal and professional woes have eclipsed his talent for years.
He was acquitted in 2005 of molesting a young fan at his Neverland Ranch and caused an uproar by dangling one of his three children out of a Berlin hotel window in 2002.
His latest recordings suffered from tepid sales and a rumored comeback album never materialized.
Jackson’s first wife was Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis, whom he married in 1994.
It was a match made in showbiz heaven but they split less than two years later.
He later married Australian Debbie Rowe and they had two children, Prince, 12 and Paris, 11, though she gave up her parental rights.
A third child, Prince Michael II, was reportedly born with the help of an anonymous surrogate mother.
Jackson had faced serious financial problems in recent years as sales wilted. Some reports said he was as much as $500 million in debt.
He faced certain foreclosure on Neverland until he managed to refinance the mortgage on the 270-acre spread.
Some analysts said he could make more than $200 million from this summer’s concerts in Britain.
Jackson moved with his kids to Bahrain in the Persian Gulf after his molestation trial, but returned to Los Angeles in recent months.
Dec. 07, 2000: My Childhood, My Sabbath, My Freedom…
“What I wanted more than anything was to be ordinary. The Sabbath was when I could be.”
Childhood
“Have you seen my childhood?
I’m searching for that wonder in my youth
Like pirates in adventurous dreams,
Of conquest and kings on the throne…”
Written and Composed by Michael Jackson
In one of our conversations together, my friend Rabbi Shmuley told me that he had asked some of his colleagues – writers, thinkers, and artists – to pen their reflections on the Sabbath. He then suggested that I write down my own thoughts on the subject, a project I found intriguing and timely due to the recent death of Rose Fine, a Jewish woman who was my beloved childhood tutor and who traveled with me and my brothers when we were all in the Jackson Five.
When people see the television appearances I made when I was a little boy – 8 or 9 years old and just starting off my lifelong music career – they see a little boy with a big smile. They assume that this little boy is smiling because he is joyous, that he is singing his heart out because he is happy, and that he is dancing with an energy that never quits because he is carefree.
But while singing and dancing were, and undoubtedly remain, some of my greatest joys, at that time what I wanted more than anything else were the two things that make childhood the most wondrous years of life, namely, playtime and a feeling of freedom. The public at large has yet to really understand the pressures of childhood celebrity, which, while exciting, always exacts a very heavy price.
More than anything, I wished to be a normal little boy. I wanted to build tree houses and go to roller-skating parties. But very early on, this became impossible. I had to accept that my childhood would be different than most others. But that’s what always made me wonder what an ordinary childhood would be like.
There was one day a week, however, that I was able to escape the stages of Hollywood and the crowds of the concert hall. That day was the Sabbath. In all religions, the Sabbath is a day that allows and requires the faithful to step away from the everyday and focus on the exceptional. I learned something about the Jewish Sabbath in particular early on from Rose, and my friend Shmuley further clarified for me how, on the Jewish Sabbath, the everyday life tasks of cooking dinner, grocery shopping, and mowing the lawn are forbidden so that humanity may make the ordinary extraordinary and the natural miraculous. Even things like shopping or turning on lights are forbidden. On this day, the Sabbath, everyone in the world gets to stop being ordinary.
But what I wanted more than anything was to be ordinary. So, in my world, the Sabbath was the day I was able to step away from my unique life and glimpse the everyday.
Sundays were my day for “Pioneering,” the term used for the missionary work that Jehovah’s Witnesses do. We would spend the day in the suburbs of Southern California, going door to door or making the rounds of a shopping mall, distributing our Watchtower magazine. I continued my pioneering work for years and years after my career had been launched.
Up to 1991, the time of my Dangerous tour, I would don my disguise of fat suit, wig, beard, and glasses and head off to live in the land of everyday America, visiting shopping plazas and tract homes in the suburbs. I loved to set foot in all those houses and catch sight of the shag rugs and La-Z-Boy armchairs with kids playing Monopoly and grandmas baby-sitting and all those wonderfully ordinary and, to me, magical scenes of life. Many, I know, would argue that these things seem like no big deal. But to me they were positively fascinating.
The funny thing is, no adults ever suspected who this strange bearded man was. But the children, with their extra intuition, knew right away. Like the Pied Piper of Hamlin, I would find myself trailed by eight or nine children by my second round of the shopping mall. They would follow and whisper and giggle, but they wouldn’t reveal my secret to their parents. They were my little aides. Hey, maybe you bought a magazine from me. Now you’re wondering, right?
Sundays were sacred for two other reasons as I was growing up. They were both the day that I attended church and the day that I spent rehearsing my hardest. This may seem against the idea of “rest on the Sabbath,” but it was the most sacred way I could spend my time: developing the talents that God gave me. The best way I can imagine to show my thanks is to make the very most of the gift that God gave me.
Church was a treat in its own right. It was again a chance for me to be “normal.” The church elders treated me the same as they treated everyone else. And they never became annoyed on the days that the back of the church filled with reporters who had discovered my whereabouts. They tried to welcome them in. After all, even reporters are the children of God.
When I was young, my whole family attended church together in Indiana. As we grew older, this became difficult, and my remarkable and truly saintly mother would sometimes end up there on her own. When circumstances made it increasingly complex for me to attend, I was comforted by the belief that God exists in my heart, and in music and in beauty, not only in a building. But I still miss the sense of community that I felt there – I miss the friends and the people who treated me like I was simply one of them. Simply human. Sharing a day with God.
When I became a father, my whole sense of God and the Sabbath was redefined. When I look into the eyes of my son, Prince, and daughter, Paris, I see miracles and I see beauty. Every single day becomes the Sabbath. Having children allows me to enter this magical and holy world every moment of every day. I see God through my children. I speak to God through my children. I am humbled for the blessings He has given me.
There have been times in my life when I, like everyone, has had to wonder about God’s existence. When Prince smiles, when Paris giggles, I have no doubts. Children are God’s gift to us. No – they are more than that – they are the very form of God’s energy and creativity and love. He is to be found in their innocence, experienced in their playfulness.
My most precious days as a child were those Sundays when I was able to be free. That is what the Sabbath has always been for me. A day of freedom. Now I find this freedom and magic every day in my role as a father. The amazing thing is, we all have the ability to make every day the precious day that is the Sabbath. And we do this by rededicating ourselves to the wonders of childhood. We do this by giving over our entire heart and mind to the little people we call son and daughter. The time we spend with them is the Sabbath. The place we spend it is called Paradise.
Hear Nancy Grace interview Firppo Carr
regarding Michael Jackson’s plans to return to the truth
Michael Jackson’s Sabbath Rest
He was raised as a Jehovah’s Witness, he married a Scientologist, and his brother wanted him to convert to Islam. Whatever sort of religious adherent Michael Jackson was in life, or whichever faith’s customs follow him to his grave today, it’s clear he never found what he was looking for — although he did see glimpses.
“What I wanted more than anything was to be ordinary,” Jackson wrote in 2000 in a fascinating personal essay for Beliefnet. “So, in my world, the Sabbath was the day I was able to step away from my unique life and glimpse the everyday.”
Those glimpses must have haunted Jackson for the rest of his anything but everyday ordinary life. It’s not clear if Jackson ever “disassociated” himself from the Witnesses, but church of his childhood memories never left him.
“When I was young, my whole family attended church together in Indiana . . . When circumstances made it increasingly complex for me to attend, I was comforted by the belief that God exists in my heart, and in music and in beauty, not only in a building. But I still miss the sense of community that I felt there — I miss the friends and the people who treated me like I was simply one of them. Simply human. Sharing a day with God.”
Maybe that’s what attracted Jackson to the Jehovah’s Witnesses and, later in his life, to Islam. As distinctive as those two faith traditions are, there is one interesting similarity. Witnesses and Muslims reject the traditional Christian doctrine of the Trinity — the belief in a triune God (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) — as a form of polytheism.
In our polytheistic culture that worships mere mortals, in many cases because of their God-given abilities and talents, a man who is treated as a god and lives as a god deep down must know there’s only one true God — and it’s not him.
Whether Michael Jackson will be buried today as a Muslim, a Jehovah’s Witness or simply as a child of God, may he rest in Sabbath peace.
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POSTSCRIPT: “Sundays were sacred for two other reasons as I was growing up,” Jackson wrote in 2000. “They were both the day that I attended church and the day that I spent rehearsing my hardest. This may seem against the idea of ‘rest on the Sabbath,’ but it was the most sacred way I could spend my time: developing the talents that God gave me. The best way I can imagine to show my thanks is to make the very most of the gift that God gave me.”
Family Viewed Michael Jackson in Open Casket
By Hilary Shenfeld
Originally posted Thursday July 09, 2009 08:00 PM EDT
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The night before the world paid tribute to Michael Jackson, close family members viewed the entertainer’s body in an open casket at Forest Lawn in the Hollywood Hills.
“He looked like himself. He looked like he just was laying there sleeping,” says David Fossett, 50, a cousin of Jackson’s who grew up with him and still lives in Jackson’s hometown of Gary, Ind. “He looked peaceful.”
Relatives gathered around the casket, “talked to each other and cried” during the viewing on Monday night, Fossett tells PEOPLE. Jackson’s parents, Katherine and Joe Jackson, were not among those gathered, but after the viewing, mourners went back to the Jackson home in Encino.
“It was a somber mood,” Fossett says. “Even though he’s this big entertainer, he’s still our family.”
Family Reminisces
But there was some levity as well as relatives reminisced. Fossett said he recalled for the group when Jackson, family and friends descended on Disneyland for the grand opening of the Captain EO movie, which starred Jackson. He also talked about the time in 1972 when Michael and the rest of Jackson 5 returned to Gary to perform at West Side High School.
Fossett and others stayed the night. Tuesday morning, the family had a quick breakfast and then got into their vehicles for the convoy to the 30- to 40-minute private service. About 70 relatives gathered at Forest Lawn, where Jackson’s cousin Wendell Hawkins conducted a Jehovah’s Witness service, according to Fossett and another cousin, Myron Hawkins, who is Wendell Hawkins’ brother.
Jehovah’s Witness Ceremony
Fossett, who is not a Jehovah’s Witness, describes the service as “spoken in a way that their belief is that he [God] is going to be back on this earth.” Wendell Hawkins “addressed guests and said he was glad that his [Michael's] life was connected with Jehovah.” During the service, John 3:16 was read, the Biblical passage that speaks to God so loving the world that he gave his only son, and Ecclesiastes 9:5, which refers to the living knowing they will die, but the dead being conscious of nothing.
Jackson’s three children, Paris, 11, Prince Michael I, 12, and Prince Michael II, 7, were crying during the service. “They lost their father,” Fossett says. “They were sad.” But the kids were comforting each other, holding each other’s hands and hugging, and in turn were being supported by family, he says. “All of us were comforting each other.”
Mourners were handed lyrics to a song entitled “Life Without End/At Last” and the group sang it together a cappella.
During the private service, Jackson’s elaborate, gold casket was closed, with a spray of flowers on top, the same ones as seen at the public memorial service at the Staples Center.
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For those who would like to know if Michael was baptized..
yes he was..
Katherine Jackson wrote a book about her life..and there she says..that he was baptized..
Great Article , I considered it marvelous
I look forward to more similar postings like this one. Does This Site have a newsletter I can subscribe to for new posts?
yes..it has..it comes automatically..when you write something down here..
Okay, I see sofi’s comment
Hey Everybody..
I just wanna let you all know..that Michael has had always Jehovah in his heart..
there are a lot of things that show here..
please take a look at this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_t6C0lou-c
in case people think..he had converted to islam..this is not true!
He was as much he could attending the meetings the past 4-5 years..
he was also at the memorial we jehovah witness have once a year.
Michael had seen the dirt and the unfairness in this world..that’s why he wanted his children to be with his mother Katherine..since she is Jehovah witness.
He realized what it is like being out of the truth.
The costudy will have his sister Rebbie in case Katherine is not able or not alive anymore..
As everybody know Rebbie is the only one of all his siblings who is activ JW!
After Rebbie the next person who would have the costudy is Rebbies daughter Stacey!
Guess what religion she has?? Of couse als a JW!
Michael knew exactly what he did leaving his children in his mothers hands!
He has so many siblings..! why only Katherine and Rebbie? this shows a lot!
Michael have made a lot of steps lately ..
in his interviews he speaks a lot out of our magazines..he doesn’t say things out of magazines bought by bornes and nobles! just listen to his interviews and also to some songs! it’s amazing!
he was always reading the bible..and the watchtower!
he never left the truth.. he was just into an position he couldn’t go back!
the past 1-2 years he was about to change his life and serve jehovah 100%.
His tour: “THIS IS IT” should be the final step..as the name of the tour says!
unfortunately he had been through a lot and wasn’t able physicly to do anything anymore..as you all know that he actually wanted to do only 10 cncerts (which was already too much for him) and the manangers and all other people made him sign at 50 concerts!
you have to imagine he was 50 years old.. powerless since he was loosing as some dr.s said at every concerts almost 1 pound and didn’T sleep more than 3-5 hours each day! how far can a person go with this? I believe not that much!
in an interview…in dezember 07 he said: I let my door always open..so God’s spirit can always come in..and when I do something good..something which is right..I go on my knees..and say: ” thank you god..thank you jehovah!..
this means a lot!
Like I said at the beginnng.. he never left Jehovah really out of his heart.
Almost everybody knows that he had written a letter to bethel where he said..that he doesn’t wanna be a JW any more officially (eventhough he wasn’t baptized) … I heard from somebody..that his letter was written and sent by his sister LaToya.
LaToya was about to leave the truth..cause she stoped already attending meetings at that time!! Michael loved her very much..
Some elders at that time said to MJ he should be careful and kinda stop talking with LaToya..poor MJ as everyone knows he was very sensitive..
he went out of the congregation crying to one friend of him..he said that the elders said he should stop having contact with LaToya.
his friend who was not a JW..said: “michael you can always find an another religion but never another sister”..
those words may be true..
but Michael realized later in his life what kind of person LaToya was!
She is very jealous.. In some interviews she said later in life that she knew Michael and Lisa Marie had a “fake wedding”.. she knew it was only for making his fans sure that he is not gay.
a little later she said: she believes that Michael had molested all those children.
She always have been thinking about those poor children ..bla bla bla..
what I wanna say is: she has always been trying to put Michael down..and show herself ..
but she lost! she lost a lot..she has never been famous in her life..she tried and felt obvious! as much as Jermaine.. the second one of his family..who has the same personality as LaToya has!
Now everybody in his family (siblings) is trying to have Tributes for Michael.. they of course say..they have been loving Michael since forever but I do not believe any single word.
Jermaine was the one who gave michael always a hard time!
With christial love from Cologne, Germany
Sofi
update..
I did a researced.. and find out…..that michael was indeed baptized..
his mom says that at her own biography book
There’s good info here. I did a search on the topic and found most people will agree with your blog. Keep up the good work mate!
Thank you
christian love
sofi
oh!!!! il a été jugé toute sa vie et ça ne vous suffit pas!!! dans la douleur il a été c’est sur!dans la joie des fois surement! quand au bonheur j’espère qu’il le connaitra dans le nouveau système!(si JEHOVAH le veut!);mais pour ce qui est de le revoir! prenons garde a nous même et faisons tout notre possible pour rester sur la route étroite et resserrer qui nous mènera dans notre futur paradis! aurions nous été meilleur que lui si nous avions été a sa place?(je veu dire si comme lui nous avions u ses dons pour la musique,danse,chant,….oui il s ‘était éloigné de JAH mais que savez vous si il n’allait pas revenir! comme le fils prodigue! il n”a peut être pas u le temps !que connaissez vous de son coeur et de ses reins ? JEHOVAH sais ! moi en tous cas j”espère le revoir si DIEU me le permet!je souhaite beaucoup de courage a soeur katherine et JEHOVAH puisse s’occuper des 3 petits PARIS,BLANKET,PRINCE MICHAEL!!!!
TRANSLATION:
oh! it was considered his whole life and it’s not enough! in the pain he was on it! in the joy of time surely! when the happiness I hope it known within the new system “(if Jehovah wills it!), but in terms of the review! take guard ourselves and do our best to stay on the narrow road that takes us closer to our future paradise! we would have been better than him if we had been in his place (I seeing whether we like him u his gifts for music, dance, song, …. Yes it s’ was removed from JAH but if you know it did not return, how the prodigal son! n he “might not be the time u, what do you know his heart and his kidneys? JEHOVAH know! me at least j” hopes to see if God permits me “I wish you courage and sister katherine JEHOVAH can handle 3 small PARIS, BLANKET, PRINCE MICHAEL!!
Can someone tell me did MJ Celabrate Christmas, Bithdays, Easter, and any of the other holidays? The reason I ask this is because I read that MJ Said that he was a JW, but I know that JW’s don’t do these holidays, but there are photos, and videos showing that he was celabrateing these holidays is any of this even true?.
Thank You
Missy
This is a re-post of our comment from 6/27 2009:
At the inception of the “Thriller” album, Michael Jackson was in good standing in a congregation, and would even go so far as to wear a disguise to preach door-to-door in order that his presence wouldn’t distract from his important message— The Kingdom.
Because this song/video (Thriller) depicted the occult as entertainment, which would have been in stark contrast with everything he was preaching at the time, that, and his repentant attitude (partly in the form of a new disclosure on the Thriller video that stated Jackson’s objection to the occult) the decision of the local elders was, not to disfellowship him, but instead to render a “Public Reproof” of Jackson before the congregation.
As one could imagine, donations must have been of astronomical proportions. But Jehovah’s Witnesses never used Michael Jackson as a billboard, and did not look the other way when he committed wrongdoing in the congregation just to keep the money flowing. (Scientology?)
Anyway, it must have ate at him because in time he caved, and voluntarily submitted a formal letter of disassociation from Jehovah’s Witnesses.
From there he continued to morph into what he had become when he died…a named changed Muslim struggling to maintain the fame & fortune he had spent his life trying to amass.
JWN
All of michael jacksons children are his,the resemblences are uncanny,,i myself am from a mixed race,my husband was maori and dark and i have a fair haired and skin daughter so as michael said it dont matter if your black or white and how true those words are,to those critics who want to be judgemental on michael jackson and his children i say grow up,he was there father and will always be his father,,,many times he said of such gossip in the tabloids well i wont be buying any tabloid material with negative feedback on michael jackson,,,RIP michael
I hope someone can answer this question for me Was MJ a Jehovah’s Witnes when he passed away? In a TVG Interview they asked him if he was still a Jehovah’s Witnes and he said yes he was, but he has been busy, and was not able to go to the meetings or service because he was very busy. So now I am wondering was he lying in that interveiw?? Then there was a public statement from Micheal Jackson back in the 1990’s that he was no longer a Jehovah’s Witnes is this true??Now I hear that he turned muslum or islamic religion is that true because that are reports that he confermed it that he a islam or muslim so I just don’t know what it really true, and it would be nice if I could know the truth I hope that someone can help me answer that for me thank you Liza
Michael jackson was always a JW,in my learning and being a jw it does not matter if you go to the kingdom hall or meetings as long as you love Jehovah our god,which michael did,his heart belonged to Jehovah our god it was just sad that he had such a gifted talent that took his time and so much time that he could not do all that the JW practice,but look at all the good he had done in his life and the charities he helped,i cannot judge michael jackson because he didnt go to meeting or the kingdom hall and neither can anyone else except Jehovah our God,i know deep in my heart that he was a JW and never stopped in beleiving and in his way being a JW.I am glad that his children are now being educated as JW,RIP michael as only you and our god Jehovah know the truth..,,,danniella
Hey im from fresno cali in a jw too and i think your right michael did have jehova in his heart
Hi, Liza
Regarding Michael turning to Islam its just another rumor,Muslims need to be buried within 24 hours of death and they dont embalmed the body for viewing so I think that should answer your question.
I also read a tvguide interview in 2001 they asked michael what his faith was and he Jehovahs witness.
I’ve read many articles were he always talks about Jehovah, the last one I read it said that he died with his jehovahs witness beliefs and he never got involved with any other religion.
he has never converted to islam..
NEVER! forget what you heard about that he was muslim or converted to any other religion.
Michael as a lot of other thousands of people/Witnesses may have done “mistakes” ..but I am sure that he learned out of this..
It’s not easy to be “Michael Jackson”..
not at all! we can’t judge..
the only think I can say..is..that he has always been a Jehovah witness in his heart.. he never believed to anyone else..
the strength he had was only because he was reading and he was praying to Jehovah.
He realized he made some mistakes..his faith grew bigger and bigger while the allegations few years ago. People say he was seen in the meeting the day before the final results should be announce ….. If this is true..I can’T say.. The only thing I can say is..he really had Jehovah in his heart..
which singer is singing those songs like:
a)
” Heal The World Make It A Better Place”
b)
“Did God say that they could decide
Who will live and who will die ?
All my mama ever did
Was try to take care of her kids
We’re innocently standing by
Watching people lose their lives
It seems as if we have no voice
It’s time for us to make a choice
Only god could decide
Who will live and who will die
There’s nothing that can’t be done
If we raise our voice as one”
c)
What have we done to the world
Look what we’ve done
What about all the peace
That you pledge your only son…”
d)
What about the seas
What about the bleeding Earth
What about nature’s worth
We’ve turned kingdoms to dust
What about elephants – Have we lost their trust
What about crying whales – We’re ravaging the seas
What about forest trails – Burnt despite our pleas
What about children dying – Can’t you hear them cry
d)
It don’t matter if you’re Black or white
and so many others..
christian love
sofi
I heard that Michael turned to the Islam Religion I don’t know how true that is can someone tell me is that true?!! Where he left his kids with his Mother who is a Jehovah’s Witnes I would think that he knew they would be going to the Kingdon Hall. If anyone can tell me did he really change to the Islam Religion?? I know his brother did turn to the Islam Religion.
All my love to the Jackson Family who are going through such a sad, sad time of there life and for the kids that have suffered a great loss, and a wonderful, kind man!!
Max
Hi Max! there were rumors che Michael has taken rather islyama.Po brother had told him that Michael is likely to accept Islam, but it never became a fact. If you ask me, this is another rumor. Another nurse told me that he recently started studying the Bible, wanted to return again in the Witnesses of Jehovah! This is wonderful! If you watch video at YouTube says there that if anything happened to him he would want his children to be raised as a Jehovah Witnesses. Michael had a good heart, I am merciful sure that throughout his life was Jehovah in his heart! I hope I have responded to satisfactorily. Bye! Alex
Alex,
This was a big help and Thank You for your reply. I just don’t know what to belive anymore where there are so many rumors going around. Thank you for answering my question this has really helped me allot!! MAX :o)
hello Alex! merci! merci! pour ces infos ; mais s’il vous plait ou les avez -vous trouvés? comment savez-vous que Michael allait revenir a la vérité? qu’il étudiait de nouveau la bible? merci beaucoup de me répondre ! amicalement! Murielle
hello! am following all the news about michael,,, since i was a teenager i like to hear all the songs he sing because of the message. i can feel that he is a servant of the most high God Jehovah. i was crying when i heard about his death and how he was passing away. we cant judged him only jehovah God. i would like to give my warmest love and symphathy to the family. i’d like to know about michael’s planning to return to Jehovah side after his tour… pls let me know and email me.. thank u!
I am curious truth is that Michael has attended meetings and that he wanted to return to the truth in recent years before he died? Please write to thank alexzandrav@abv.bg
hi..
yes..he was attending meetings the past 4-5 years
he was also at the memorial we have once a year …
he wasn’t baptized..but this after this tour THIS IS IT..as the tour name says…he wanted completely change his lifestyle.. he was about to serve jehovah 100%.
his children already knew Jehovah..his sister REbbie was helping him a lot with his mother Katherine..
paris his daughter choose the song at his private memorial they had in the kingdom hall # 15 !!
hope could answer you some question.
does anybody know sister Katharines address?
I would love to send her a card..only to let her know..that there is another sister from the other site of the world who is thinking about her and her heart of a lioness.
I don’t wish to anybody what is happening and what happend in the past 2 months to her!
It’s the worst thing ever a mother to bury her own child.
Katharine ..may Jehovah our God give you strenght for everything..especially raising MJ’s 3 beautiful children and love Jehovah like you do!
Sofi
This is so good to read..
It’s really amazing..
I truly believe..he was on his way to “restart” a new life as an JW (official)..but on his way to.. he died.
The same happend to my grandfather.
He was sick in hospital..he told my grandmother…he wanted to become a JW…right after he would leave the hospital..and then he died!
I believe from the bottom of my heart.. he was a good man..
If people would listen with a little more attention to his interviews (Youtube)..you would be able to realize..that he knew a lot about the truth..since the things he was telling ….are what we get taught at the meetings..
It’s unbelievable what he is saying there! And the way how he is saying!
All in all..we can’t judge..only Jehovah God is able to judge…and for that we all hope the best for everyone.
Sofi
hello, thank you that I wrote. I am from Bulgaria and you? Bye!
What I want to know was MJ going to the kingdom hall before he died. It is wonderful that MJ’s Mother is raising MJ’s kids because she will love them just like Mj loved them. I hope that someone can help answer this question I have.
I too “am” a Jehovah’s witness….I have not been to a meeting since around 1999 or so. So I am inactive. I pray to Jehovah throughout my day and night. He leads me and saves me through peril in my life. I see proof of him all around me. He knows my heart. He knows why I haven’t been to the Kingdom hall. Like Michael. I know the scriptures lead us to truths for comforting and we have info on the resurrection there now to comfort us concerning Michael. Anyone can just read lyrics to the songs he wrote to know where his heart was. But, people, can you imagine the pain of loving Jehovah and being baptized even, and BELIEVING your talent was from HIM and using it to try to bring together races and nations through it, and by doing so, you displease the congregation????? What can you do if you BELIEVE Jah and his gift to you?? He must NOT have wanted to be disfellowshipped, so he disassociated to not bring too much negitive attention to the congregation of Jehovah. He had no choice (other than give up his talent that he got from Jah, and then not reach so many people through song) to not become that worldly to reach the people with his message of peace and love. So he taught the world, he PREACHED through his song. He reached more people than any of us could have. Jesus told that HE was hated and his followers would be too…and look at Michael’s life. Lies, gossip……. But, in the end, his will giving his children to his Jehovah’s witness Mother tells where his heart belonged!!! I’m believing the torment he suffered was from leaving the congregation. His life slid downhill. But, spritiually and emotionally, he must’ve been purely TORMENTED to have to be away from the congregation when he BELIEVED and was trying through his GOD given gift to preach in song and in his good works and such. I think this destroyed the man. But, Jah knows his heart and we have to just pray for his family and children now. I–really–believe that this was all a scam and Michael got out of it all to repay his bills and beable to clean up his life and worship Jah. That he is out in this world someplace living as you and I. But, if not, then we have to “keep our eye on the prize” and pray for the new order so that WE can please Jah and live in paradise. As, I’m sure Michael had in his heart too — read his thoughts in his songs and you will be comforted too.
Remember that sins are paid with death, and only people who had sin against Jah’s holy spirit are the ones who doesnt have the resurrection hope. So everybody besides those who sinned against Jah’s holy spirit will resurrect and will be judged, to live in paradise or to die forever.
why did u leave jehova witnees u would off lived forever and in peace now ur kids will learn from ur mestace u stink if u want beafe with me i live in chelsea
I’m at peace now that I’ve heard the whole story.
So did I!
XoOx 2 all!
Here I’m again Bros N Sis n when in doubt I always google ha! Guess what I just found…the most clarifying information from our brother Dr. Firpo himself. What an amazing report I’m sure this will clear up a lot of our doubts, from someone who really knew MJ there’s no most accurate data. It talks about past interviews and comments that MJ did in public about his beliefs and above all Brother Firpo explains MJ was actually a Baptised JW and regular pioneer where 90 hours was his goal back then! So let me say no more and read it for yourselves!!
Michael Jackson & Jehovah’s Witnesses
Written by Dr. Firpo W. Carr, (Columnist), on 07-23-2009 00:00
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Curious fans of Michael Jackson want to know what faith he embraced during the years just prior to his death. They’re intrigued with what sparked the Gloved One’s spiritual fire in the waning moments of his glorious life. Rumors swirl that although he was raised as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses he secretly converted to Islam shortly before his death. For example, prior to his funeral one online article posed the question, “Will Michael Jackson’s Funeral Be Jehovah’s Witness–or Muslim?” (E! Online, July 2, 2009) So, the definitive question is: Was Michael Jackson Muslim, or was he one of Jehovah’s Witnesses? As one who has tracked the family’s religious progression for four decades–from the emergence of the Jackson 5 to Michael’s death–I’m pleased to offer my unique insight and observations.
Witness-Muslim connection?: The first chapter of my book, A History of Jehovah’s Witnesses–From a Black American Perspective (1993), is entitled, “Jehovah’s Witnesses and Black Muslims.” These “Black Muslims” were Nation of Islam (NOI) members, not descendents of Black Africans in the Diaspora who belonged to Orthodox Islam, which tenet-wise differs dramatically from the NOI. The chapter highlights the similarities and parallels between Black Witnesses and Black Muslims. These connections were explained in a book I later released in 2002 entitled, Jehovah’s Witnesses: The African American Enigma–A Contemporary Study (Vol. 1). Numerous sources were quoted stating that the NOI absorbed a number of Witness teachings, and that the first two leaders of the NOI were enamored with the first two leaders of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Was Michael a Muslim enamored with the Witnesses? Or, was he a Witness enamored with the Muslims?
Michael in the Moment: Michael Jackson was raised as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, there’s no doubt about that. But, he left in 1987 because a number of well-meaning fellow Witnesses severely criticized him for his “worldliness.” They apparently confused his right to make a living as the greatest entertainer in history with his alleged desire to be a part of the world. (1 John 2:15-17; Rom. 12:2; 1 Cor. 7:31) Still, even though a distraught and frustrated Michael disassociated himself from the organization he never surrendered the Bible-based doctrines his mother taught him.
Fourteen years after officially leaving the Witnesses Michael not only continued to identify himself as one, he even asserted his official association with the group. In an interview with TV Guide in 2001 Michael was asked: “Are you still a Jehovah’s Witness?” The King of Pop unhesitatingly answered: “Yeah.” He further added: “I’ve done, you know, we call it pioneering [full-time preaching]. We do 90 hours a month. [This quota has been reduced since.] I don’t do as much now because I’m busy. You go door to door. I wear a fat suit, pop-bottle glasses, mustache, buck teeth, and, like, an Afro wig. And I knock on the door and say we’re Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
Also, back in 2004, under some rather critical, extenuating circumstances I found myself in the presence of Michael, his mother Katherine, his sister Rebbie, Grace Rwaramba (the children’s nanny), Michael’s daughter Paris, and son Prince Michael. We were at Michael’s rented home in Beverly Hills. I was surprised when he beckoned me into an adjacent room. Paris insisted on being not letting him out of her sight, so she and Prince Michael accompanied us into the next room, after which Michael closed the door.
He then told me, among other things, that he wanted me to study the Bible with his children, and that he wanted them to be raised by his mother as Jehovah’s Witnesses should anything happen to him. This explains in part why these same children were being seen attending a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses here in Los Angeles after his funeral.
Witness family members?: Many want to know just who are Witnesses in Michael’s immediate family. Here’s the final word: Michael’s oldest sister, Rebbie (real name Maureen), is a devout Witness to this day. Katherine, Michael’s mother, is also a conscientious Witness. LaToya was a Witness, and even served as a temporary pioneer for a while, but was eventually excommunicated (“disfellowshiped”). Although Janet and the rest of the Jacksons were all raised as Witnesses, none were baptized as such and subsequently went their separate ways upon reaching adulthood. What is particularly interesting is that Joseph Jackson, Michael’s father, introduced Witness teachings to the family, but declined to become one himself. Joe’s parents, both deceased, were also Witnesses in Arizona, having joined the faith later in life.
Michael’s Mysterious Memorial Service?: Actually, the private memorial service for Michael Jackson was no mystery at all. According to People magazine, “About 70 relatives gathered at Forest Lawn, where Jackson’s cousin Wendell Hawkins conducted a Jehovah’s Witness service.” Though not officially a Witness service, it had all the trappings. Hawkins told all in attendance, including Michael’s three children, that Michael’s “life was connected with Jehovah.” A Washington Post article dated July 8, 2009, also expounded on Michael’s Witness upbringing.
According to one source, it certainly couldn’t be true that Michael converted to Islam because Muslims don’t embalm the body, let alone display it. Also, they have an aversion to autopsies, and promptly bury their dead within 48 hours of death. The Witnesses have no problem these matters. Therefore, an autopsy was performed on Michael; he was embalmed; his body was displayed; and he was not buried promptly.
Finally, Ebony magazine conducted the last comprehensive interview with Michael Jackson in its December 2007 Special Collector’s Edition which carried the title, “Michael: 25 Years After Thriller.” Michael summed up just which God he worshipped when he stated, some 20 years after leaving the Witnesses, the following on page 98: “When I write something that I know is right, I get on my knees and say thank you. Thank you Jehovah!”
Amen, Brother Michael Jackson. Amen.
Last update: 07-22-2009 23:21
I want know more.
I’m a jehovah’s witness in Hong Kong.
thank you
And what exactly would you like to know sis?
hi
his private memorial service had a Bible talk.
had Michael been giving evidence of repentance and manifesting a desire to be reinstated?
Hi my name is Alex! Strongly excite me … Is it true that Michael Jackson is planning to return to the Witnesses of Jehovah after his tour ended? Please email !!!
Did anyone from JW visit MJ for regular bible lessons, invite to Kingdom Hall?
I dont think anyone has a right to judge or say what is or what is not.
MJ was forced out of the JW but in my opinion remaind charitable as he was always taught by his mother who is JW.
Judge and you will also be judged.
Dear sis i do apoligies for the as you say cruel words!!i do not mean to be that way!!and did not mean intent to upset!!yes jah is the only one who judges as you say and not us!!i deeepley aplogise to you and anyone who has been offened!!Regards bro Dean smith x
Don’t worry Dean Smith,
But remember that we could be trapped by satan and fall in that sadly position and maybe in that case we could ask to Jehovah for forgiveness, and He will do it, so maybe MJ’s mom is praying for that merciness to her son. And we can not say neither “yes he will be there” nor ” No he wont”, remember ONLY Jehovah knows…
see you then!
..yEs.. Jehova God is Always there.. And Watch..
hE kNows whAt we nEed..He kNows wHAt’s the best for us..
And he knows what we feel….
All those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out. Michael of course. He had love for all even in his unusual set of circumstances. Jehovah is attracted to love. The god we know, what we are fed from the faithful and discreet slave. Come on of course he will be back.
I can’t say much being that I am disfellowshiped. But I truly appreciate this blog. The message to the family was just beautiful. And it is encouraging beyond words.
Thank you,
Mary
Many comments are all becoming a little evangelistical and out of content. Its simple and the answers are in what all of you say. Jehovah never said to give up our jobs to serve him, he asked that we make consciencious decisions with our conscience as only we are ‘alone’ will face jehovah at judgement day and only we alone will answer. If Michael made money out of singing so be it – thats what he knew and thats what he did and I love him for bringing so much talent and great music into my life – the world wouldnt be the same without him.
What I do agree with is that Jehovah expects our behaviours and actions to reflect his word and our faith in him and being no part of the world is a demonstration of this and yes some of Michaels actions were questionable and not in line with the teachings of the bible and hence why he is an ex Jehovah Witness and not a practicing Jehovah Witness so he recognised himself that he was unable to fulfil all expectations of Jehovah and I respect him for that. However, there has been many years that has passed when he has taken time out to be a father and no one knows what he was thinking, what peace he may or may have not made with Jehovah or what he prayed about and at the end of the day, once more, I would expect Jehovahs people to leave judgement to Jehovah as he is the judge and whatever sins Michael has done, he will face Jehovah at Judgement day. Only Jehovah knows what is deep in the heart of his creations and from what I understand, Michaell made a lot of peace with himself and others and his mother, one of Jehovahs servants was left responsibility for his children because she loved Jehovah and her son and Michael knew that she would do what was right by the children and give them the peace and love of Jehovah which maybe… he couldnt surrender to freely – what greater sacrifice than to give your children a chance to serve jehovah and gain life in the new system? He must have thought about that to make a decision of this kind and maybe we should humble ourselves step out of our dictating, evangelitical, judgemental arena and remember that a human being, who to me appeared to be sweet and kind and very opposite to the media depiction, died and left his children and family behind and his family are mourning thier loss and need to come to terms with their sorrow. What we need to do, is pray for them and pray for our sister Katherine to give her the strength and courage to continue to do what Jehovah asks of her and to support those children and that those children continue to have the opportunity to get to know Jehovah and have the special love of thier grandmother, the love that Michael cherished so much. Amen
Hey the info that David Fossett told People was incorrect. My friend is Brandon Hawkins he is the nephew to Wendell and Myron. Brandon was the guy in the red shirt and black vest seen on the news helping Katherin out of the car when the family arrived at Forest Lawn. Brandon said “David was just looking for a check. The talk my uncle gave was plain and simple the stuff David said was bunch of bull. Michaels kids werent crying they were paying attenion”. From what Brandon tells me about the Jehovah’s Wittnesses David has it all screwed up he is just a relative looking to gain something ($$$) which is sad. Whatever religion the kids are raised as is NOBODIES BUISNESS BUT THEIR OWN!
I really think it would be a good idea for all Jehovah’s Witnesses on the internet to not use terms that only Jehovah’s Witnesses understand and use proper grammar and spelling. You are all just giving people more fuel. So many people think that Jehovah’s Witnesses are stupid and are part of a cult…PROVE THEM WRONG!
I will Pray from Micheal’s family.
May Jehovah be with his mother a children..
Hello,
does somebody know the adress from the jacksons home “Hayvenhurst Mansion” in Encino? I would like to write some comforting words. Rebbie and Katherine should know that many brothers and sisters think of them and that not everybody believe what is written there in the tabloids about Michael.
Thank you very much
Greetings from Germany
Sonny
Hi,
Google the copy of Michael’s will and the parents address is on it.
Hi, Cheryle
I also wanted to send a condolence card to sister katherine
how do I google to get the address???
sorry i’m not good with the internet.
If you have the address can you email it to me?
Thanks
nancy. jw
hello cheryle..
I also want to write a card to Katharine ..
I am a sister from Germany.. and I really feel bad for what she has to go through …
It is just not fair..especially if someone is 80 years old.
I unfortunately can’t find it.
:(( is it possible to help me with please?
my email is:
sofi_gr@msn.com
thanks
sofi
Hi Cheryle,
thank you :o)
Ok guys get a grip. Your advert says: “ex jah witness”, ok? Condolence to
family, but we have full time bro & sis in the field who are struggling
come on were is support for them please!
Yes a man has died but do not drawn in to the worlds point of view!
this man is no prophet please let it go!
Take a look at the year book and put them bro & sis on this!
Please don’t get drawn in to this worlds corrupt life!
Regards bro DEAN SMITH
hello Dean Smith,
Of course we have several brothers and sister who has served Jehovah with true loyalty and if they had gone, we for sure know that they will be in the new order, the thing here is that we are worried for a man who knew Jehovah’s promises and in some way he had faith and in a some period of his life was a Jehovah’s witness, and that’s it all about, we don’t know, only Jehovah knows if MJ will be on earth again, why many people or JW are concern about it? well because you know if we die faithful we will have resurrection, but MJ wasn’t in that position, so Jehovah knew his heart and He will have the last decision, meanwhile we can’t judge him, I guess as lovely brothers we can expect a good thing, so please don’t be rude with your words again. As a sister my hope is that MJ will be in the paradise as he dreamt to be there and as he wrote in several songs, he wanted to live forever, and now I’m worried about myself if I will be there, because we have to be loyal and do several things as we read in the last article that we studied in the Wt magazine, we must seeking Jehovah[...] seeking righteousness, seek meekness, probably”I” may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger….
a sister from Mexico,
JW Ericka
Well said Ericka,
What videos are you concerned with?
JWN
I AM NOT A WITNESS YET BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MY BABY, MY BROTHER, AND MICHAEL JACKSON IN THE NEW SYSTEM!
AND all i know is that people sumtimes have NO respect to us we still folow our gods rules cuz we all know the new system is coming and people who dont care will lose there life priveliges to be happy and have peace and forget this worldly world we live in now!!!
i think mj will see us soon i the new system cuz we all love him and i know that its jehova who will forgive him and i know his mom would love to see him in the new system too WE LOVE MJ R.I.P!!!
The bible says that the wages for sin is death. micheal died for his sins and thus has paid the price. if in his heart he was favourable to jehovah as some of his actions show by trusting his children to his mom who is a wittness then i am sure jehovah will remember him and show him mercy.
look forward to seeing him in the new system.
This is true star, but I think the discussion is over
someone who has dedicated his life to serving Jehovah,
then does the opposite with his time, resources, talent,
and natural abilities. This is not taken lightly by Jehovah.
The Bible makes it clear that after we have the knowledge,
if we do not preach, we are blood guilty.
Jehovah will ask for the lives of the neglected from US.
This behavior puts the persons salvation in question,
as opposed to one that has sacrificed and rejected
fame, glory, riches, & time consuming record contracts
in order to live up to their dedication, and we applaud them.
To do otherwise, is spitting on the graves of many, even recent,
servants of Jehovah who have even PAID to get out of lucrative
entertainment contracts in order to remain separate from the world,
not to mention countless others like CEO’s, that have stepped
down to create more time for their dedication.
This needs to be understood by all who are now
being prodded by greedy parents, rejecting the
good advise of wise, God fearing parents, or just
get that sparkle in their eye at the very thought of
the entertainment industry, ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK,
and often peril.
Showing they were his to give away, the Devil offered
Jesus all the Kingdoms of the world, in effect the whole
world—fame, fortune, power, all of it…he turned him down.
Make no mistake, the one behind your offer today…is none other!
JWN
There are many successful JW’s out there, I don’t feel that we must give up our fortunes, but how we share our fortune that determines the way God judges us. And I don’t think it is ritualistic spreading of God’s Word, such as committing to spending a set # of hours each week going door to door, that God judges, it is the witnessing of His Word that comes spoken from our hearts in any matter under any circumstances. How Jehovah judges MJ is something only He knows. We should not assume that He will not show mercy on others because their works did not follow ritual. MJ sang many songs about God’s love and our responsibility to help one another and to love one another. These songs reached millions, not just neighborhoods in a selected community. He gave to several charities to help the hungry and the impoverished with the fortune he made. For us to judge, says that the only way to recieve God’s mercy is through only set venues and traditions by human standards and interpretation. MJ’s life may not have always reflected that of a Christian, but if you were to put all of our lives under a microscope, none of our lives would seem worthy, regardless of our works. Under that microscope, you would see that we are all merely trying our best as imperfect human beings in an imperfect world.
If a babysitter agreed to do the tasks assigned to her such as keep a close eye on your children, feed them, read to them, protect them from intruders, but when you arrive, you find the children cold, hungry, still awake, and neglected…And she begins to tell you how she painted the trim on your house, mowed the lawn, washed the car, and did all that SHE felt like doing…you may be angry, not pay her, and send her on her way.
Dedicated, Baptized, Christians have learned that a specific obligation, with direct instructions has been assigned to the Congregation and is carried out by individuals that understand these instructions. WE DO NOT HAVE THE LUXURY OF SERVING GOD THE WAY THAT PLEASES US.
Many today do great humanitarian works, often in Jesus’ name in one way or another. Jehovah loves when we show kindness, generosity to the lowly ones. But herein lies a major problem— is that God’s will for the time of the end? IT IS NOT. Jesus said:
“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one DOING the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness.—Matt. 7:21-23
So…What IS God’s will for this most critical time in history? Please ask any of Jehovah’s Dedicated Witnesses and they will be glad to share this knowledge with you free of charge. or—click the link HERE to request a visit.
I just want to say that I am so sorry that Michael is no longer with us I loved seeing him in australia, he has to be one of the best performers of all time. I can imagine what he endured with people looking and talking about him, I remember my grandmother going to america and bringing back a thriller leather jacket back but my dad threw it out .
I want to tell Paris and her little brothers that my kids have been listening to michael albums and even ought out the LP’s out the other day and they were excited to see that I still had my childhood collection still in great condition. My 3 kids and I always hear your final speach to your daddy and hope he lives in you forever. Love to you 3 and your family. xxxxxxx
“The bible says that the wages for sin is death”
the bible speaks about the sin we have from adam!
those are not the sins we make through our life ..
if someone goes exactly against jehovahs words then he better change his lifestyle.
I don’t believe MJ was going against jehovahs will..
I would say the opposite..he was going into the meetings the past 5 years..he was helping children..he was paying medication for them.
he had some charities organisation.
he actually gave in 1987 all the money he got from his tour completely for charities! which was at that time almost 5 mio dollars!
he was giving help where ever he could.
he was a good person..
plus remember..he wasn’t baptized..which means a lot! if he would have been baptized and leave the truth… then this would be worse! but he wasn’t..
he “only” stoped attending meetings! he was more as an interest.
he was at the meetings in his early life ..he was out for door to door..
he was doing a lot of things! but then he just stopped!
before he died..he was attending the past five years again the meetings!°
plus as people can see he was about to change his lifestyle as prince our brother did° ..the tour with the name THIS IS IT says a lot! he was about to serve jehovah into the fullest!
guess why his mother and his sister have the costudy of the children?
you knew exactly what he wanted..and what he did..leaving his children with his mother.
he knew how mean how unfair and how dirty this world and how people in this world can be..he saw it as first!
Rebbie never gave up with Michael..they always talked about the bible..she was the one who helped his children with stopping with christmas, birthdays and all these stuff!
we all looking forward to meet MJ and a lot other loving people in paradise..
christian love
sofi
update:
MICHAEL WAS UPDATE
HIS MOM HAD A BOOK ..AND THERE SHE SAYS AT PAGE 84 or something that he was baptized..
Although I am not a Jehovah Wintness, I do respect and admire the adherents of the faith for their steadfast attempts at proselytizing an unbelieving world. I do have a question. In the video Thriller, Michael is transformed into a monsterlike character. Could he have been disfellowshipped for this? I worked with a girl who dressed up like the Easter bunny and visited sick children in the hospital and she was disfellowshipped for this act because they said she was mimicking a false god. Could the same be true for Michael in this video? Would or Could his congregation disfellowship him for a work related costume? And, by the way, I do agree with the previous writers who said we shouldn’t judge Michael. None of us have walked in his shoes. None of us can understand his torment. None of us can pass judgment on him. None of us have nail scars in our palms…..
Seldom, if ever, is someone removed from the congregation by being disfellowshiped
on account of a particular act. It’s UNREPENTANT gross sin that leads to this action.
Individuals are given every opportunity to repent, sometimes the same weakness is
forgiven several times (which garners criticism the other way),
then the last resort is DF.
While it’s true that just the name Easter can set a pagan’s world ablaze, none the
less this gal had to have done more than one round of “Peter-cotton-tail” to end
up in that predicament.
It’s true we do not judge Michael as a person, but we have no problem boldly
proclaiming the THINGS that God says He hates. His salvation rests in Gods hands alone,
and is at present undetermined. This is NOT the case, however, with materialism, covetousness,
idolatry, and so forth. These have already been judged & condemned by Jehovah eons ago.
They are not unforgivable, but just don’t die before you have time to repent, and show
“fruits that befit repentance”, or you will have some splanin’ to do —Lucy.
JWN
Dear brothers and sister, first of all I would like to extend my sisterly love to all of you. Concerning MJ’s resurrection hope we shouldn’t linger about it. Let us live it to Jehovah.
I hesitated to write anything on this thread being that the society advises us to stay away from all “Jehovah’s Witness” websites other than the official Watchtower one. However, I simply just can’t bite my tongue any longer. My mother (who is a devout Witness and one of the strongest people in the truth that I know) and I simply cannot believe the number of so-called Witnesses on here stating that there is no way Michael will be included in the resurrection. One person had the audacity to use the analogy of when Satan offered Jesus the keys to the kingdom and Jesus told Satan to go away whereas Michael J. said “where do I sign”. What a horrible and judgemental analogy. Jesus Christ was perfect whereas we (including Michael and YOU) are not. I think it’s safe to say that no one here possesses the talent that Michael possessed and therefore, never experienced the temptation of fortune and fame, at least to the extent that Michael did. I think it’s also safe to say that most, if not all, were not raised by an emotionally and physically abusive father and subjected to the CONSTANT pressure of not only a demanding father but the general public as well. Not to mention the CONSTANT influence of the worldly entertainment industry, mainly due the the actions of his greedy father. His father did not allow Michael’s mother to go on tour with the Jackson 5 so there was no balance when they were on the road. I also truly believe that Michael suffered from mental illness and it has been speculated that he, himself, was sexually abused as a child by someone in the music industry. Although NONE of us here know for sure if Michael will be resurrected, I truly do believe that our loving creator, Jehovah, will take those things into account when judging Michael. Rosa, I didn’t see in the video where Michael was wanting to start studying again after his tour. I only saw where he wanted his children to study. I so hope you’re right. Maybe you heard that from another source. If so, please let me know where.
Your Sister,
Shea
Well said, Shea… I never really got interested with any MJ songs until now, and like it or not, I have to say he has written many songs which are of interest to us.
1. He wrote Heal the World. A few lines I found interesting:
You’ll find there’s no need to cry
In this place you’ll feel
There’s no hurt or sorrow. ( Rev 21:3,4)
Love is strong
It only cares for joyful giving. (2 Co 9:7)
See the nations turn
Their swords into plowshares (Isa 2:4)
2. Man in the Mirror:
I’m Starting With The Man In
The Mirror
I’m Asking Him To Change
His Ways
And No Message Could Have
Been Any Clearer
If You Wanna Make The World
A Better Place
(If You Wanna Make The
World A Better Place)
Take A Look At Yourself, And
Then Make A Change ( James 1:22-24)
3. His Earth song depicts his deep longing for answers. Too many questions.
thank you for the search ;)
its great..
You’re right brothers and sister. JW from the philippines. Though, MJ lived the way he wanted the forgiveness of Jehovah will be remained to those who repent. Let this sad story become a lesson to us to live and serve God as long as we live in this temporary world, the world of selfishness where satan rules.We know that the end will be near…
your right we need to serve jehova now more then ever becouse the end is near.
Jehovahs organization here on earth has a loving shepherding arrangement where all interested ones are visited to see if it is their desire to serve Jehovah. I don’t believe MJ was ever baptised let alone disfellowshipped but even if he was df he would have received the benefits of that caring arrangement at least on an annual basis.. My point is ,no one can judge a spiritually weak person. Who knows when circumstances may put us in a similar situation and we may need some loving discipline just like a parent gives a child they love and a big hug of spiritual comfort. None of us no what MJ ’s life would have been like. What I am confident of though is that all his tears , in the anguish of his life & the tears of his family at this time are certainly in Jehovahs heart. Psalms 56:8.
May none of us cause his family anymore grief by using this avenue to “debate over words”. With Love to all the friends.
Ben.
I see ths blog and the media and in my opinion, way too much coverage on one imperfect man.
Wheather he recieves a resurection or not is way out of our hands. No JW service, prayr or wishful thinking is going to change that. The decision has already been made. It’s over with.
I just seem to think many in the faith is consumed by this that alot of energy and time is wasted. To the point of ensnaring ourselvs.
I hope I am just over reacting and not comming off as rude.
thanks brothers.